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Keyser Soze VerbalKint
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Posted - 2013.05.11 20:34:00 -
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Bad Heal wrote:This weapon is devistating. High damage, nice rate of fire, and nice clip size. Oh and did I mention its range?
This weapon won't last long the way it is, especially when it can shoot full auto... mod'd controller guys
Just get gud. Whaa the TAC AR is OP, whats next the Logi suit is OP too 
Try the others are just not up to snuff. |
Keyser Soze VerbalKint
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Posted - 2013.05.11 20:58:00 -
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Bad Heal wrote:Keyser Soze VerbalKint wrote:Bad Heal wrote:This weapon is devistating. High damage, nice rate of fire, and nice clip size. Oh and did I mention its range?
This weapon won't last long the way it is, especially when it can shoot full auto... mod'd controller guys Just get gud. Whaa the TAC AR is OP, whats next the Logi suit is OP too Try the others are just not up to snuff. Have you been reading the forums? its ripe with logi nerf. the other weapons all got nerfed and to try to make up for it they bump all weapon damage by 10% and an extra 10% to HMGs (needed). Its just sad that they uprising is making this game worse.
Are you dense, the point is the logi suit isnt OP and all these threads cropping up just shows how clueless so much of this player base is with regard to gameplay damage.
Plenty of feedback has been given to support my claims about Logis so much so that people finally clued in that the role bonuses needed tweeking on the CALDARI Logi, and the assualt suits needed buffs.
With regards to the TAC AR its perfectly fine as is. Problem is the other weapons have become completely unreliable so it makes the TAC AR stick out like a sore thumb.
I wont even touch the modded controller bait, anyone thinking that its cause of modded controllers simply need to get a grip, this weapon isnt like little league sports(everyone gets a trophy for participation). Some ppl are just better with the weapon. Get over it. |
Keyser Soze VerbalKint
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Posted - 2013.05.11 22:21:00 -
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Lance 2ballzStrong wrote:Keyser Soze VerbalKint wrote:With regards to the TAC AR its perfectly fine as is. Problem is the other weapons have become completely unreliable so it makes the TAC AR stick out like a sore thumb.
I wont even touch the modded controller bait, anyone thinking that its cause of modded controllers simply need to get a grip, this weapon isnt like little league sports(everyone gets a trophy for participation). Some ppl are just better with the weapon. Get over it. lol defending an OP gun...wonder if you use it? I wonder what 90% of assault players using? I wonder why? Most people tend to gravitate towards the easy stuff, so it makes me wonder how "hard" it is to use. The fact that you have no objection to people using modded controllers really shows you have no problems with people cheating. People want they can use whatever, BUT the fact that the ROF ALLOWS the gun to be exploited by cheating, is a different matter. The gun is suppose to hit hard, but the ROF is stupidly high for a semi auto gun. If people really say the tact AR's are fine, I question this community. All you have to look at is what all the "top" players are using, and see what's OP or easymode.
I dont address your modded controller complaints because you and everyone else who insists they are being used are utterly clueless. The comment i make refers to how you crybabies are spoiled by being told you are all special and when you cant reproduce results that other top players can its that they use OP gear or they cheat, its never your own fault or lack of skill.
If you carebears had any sense you'd know with the next to nonexistent recoil the burst fire weapons would be the clear choice to use a modded controller on.
But tell you what rather than you using your ears or watching tracers or whatever weak reason you cite as proof of modded controller use, why don't you bring the forums some video proof of their use. Its pretty clear when a person is using a modded controller right so surely it wont be a problem to obtain "proof". |
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Posted - 2013.05.11 23:52:00 -
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undeadsoldier90 wrote:Keyser Soze VerbalKint wrote:Lance 2ballzStrong wrote:Keyser Soze VerbalKint wrote:With regards to the TAC AR its perfectly fine as is. Problem is the other weapons have become completely unreliable so it makes the TAC AR stick out like a sore thumb.
I wont even touch the modded controller bait, anyone thinking that its cause of modded controllers simply need to get a grip, this weapon isnt like little league sports(everyone gets a trophy for participation). Some ppl are just better with the weapon. Get over it. lol defending an OP gun...wonder if you use it? I wonder what 90% of assault players using? I wonder why? Most people tend to gravitate towards the easy stuff, so it makes me wonder how "hard" it is to use. The fact that you have no objection to people using modded controllers really shows you have no problems with people cheating. People want they can use whatever, BUT the fact that the ROF ALLOWS the gun to be exploited by cheating, is a different matter. The gun is suppose to hit hard, but the ROF is stupidly high for a semi auto gun. If people really say the tact AR's are fine, I question this community. All you have to look at is what all the "top" players are using, and see what's OP or easymode. I dont address your modded controller complaints because you and everyone else who insists they are being used are utterly clueless. The comment i make refers to how you crybabies are spoiled by being told you are all special and when you cant reproduce results that other top players can its that they use OP gear or they cheat, its never your own fault or lack of skill. If you carebears had any sense you'd know with the next to nonexistent recoil the burst fire weapons would be the clear choice to use a modded controller on. But tell you what rather than you using your ears or watching tracers or whatever weak reason you cite as proof of modded controller use, why don't you bring the forums some video proof of their use. Its pretty clear when a person is using a modded controller right so surely it wont be a problem to obtain "proof". Moded controller or not the weapon is op. The only weapon that should take 947 ehp in 4 shots is a sniper.Not to mention tacs own in cqc they dont even belong their. Nerf dmg back to 50ish and keep everything else the same.
Nope dmg is fine, the only credible solution would be to reduce ROF, however a large ROF nerf and the weapon wont fire fast enough to kill at range. This is the conundrum of the TAC AR it has to work well at range without being too effective in CQC. ROF not Dmg is the way to do that.
Another is CLIP SIZE. Notice nobody here even thinks to look at clip size as a possible issue with the TAC. Reducing the clip size forces proper aim regardless of the weapon attributes. If a person cant aim and land shots on targets they will not be able to spray and pray it with a turbo/modded controller because they will just empty their clip too quick.
Currently they are 24 and 30 for glu and duvolloe tac. Reduce the clip size so each shot counts more.
Also really lets not get into the spreadsheet game of DPS and EHP. This isnt an RPG where you are casting a spell these are guns and while the damage output is one factor in a weapon the other is actually making the shots hit your target.
My issue isnt with ppl who seek to try to balance the TAC AR, its with people who cite modded controllers as the reason it needs to be nerfed or that ppl cheat. They are silly and their inability to admit that it could be more to do with their own shortcomings as a player that results in their perception. Moreover the Burst variants have larger clips, faster ROF, and virtually no recoil. The DPS is irrelevant because the shots are easier to keep on track. So yea if someone is going to use a modded controller it would be on that weapon(as is the case in most FPS where ppl apply their modded controllers to.)
Oh and i run against my imp teammates quite a bit in CQC when they are using TACs i have really no issue against them, but i dont stand still and i dont go running into 6 of them half cocked. I breakup their lil circle jerk with some RE's or nades and proceed to harass them while my other squadmates take them out. Its why i love playing against my corp, hands down best challenge in the game. |
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